Daily Chance - Ticket Mastery

[Yonks]

Daily Chance - Ticket Mastery

Daily Chance - Ticket Mastery
http://topmafia.info/daily-chance-ticket-mastery/

For the players that log in every day, Zynga has a feature within their Daily Chance called Ticket Mastery. This is a great way to get a couple extra skill points every week to make your Mafia Wars character better. Here we'll discuss the strategy that we prefer for using this extra bonus.

Ticket Mastery:

• Day 1-4 [4 tickets] = use for 1 skill point
• Day 5-7 [3 tickets] + purchase 1 additional ticket with 2 Godfather Reward Points = use for 1 skill point
• If for some reason that you don't play daily, you can always use 2 Ticket Mastery for an additional ticket.

By following this strategy you will end up with 2 additional skill points every week and only use 2 Reward Points.

Some people advocate that you should save all of your Ticket Mastery and claim it when you are at Ticket Mastery 6 of 6.  This randomly awards 1 to 5 Godfather Reward Points.  We do not believe that this will allow you to improve your character as consistently and immediately as our recommended strategy.

Daily Chance Schedule:
You have until Friday morning at 6:00a PST to play the last free Daily Chance ticket.  Once that time passes, you are no longer eligible to redeem your Ticket Mastery.  The Daily Chance #'s are drawn on Friday afternoon ... once the #'s have been drawn your Ticket Mastery progress is reset for the forthcoming week.

Not 100% sure about these times.  Will update tomorrow with more specific ones.

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[Mr_Pedantic]

Although I do claim a skill point every four tickets I prefer to use tickets 5 and 6 to have a free lottery ticket this gives me an extra Ticket mastery point which used in additon to day seven ticket will give me another free ticket making a total of nine entries for the lottery and of course I get another ticket mastery point and claim a collection piece which, although random, are sometimes handy I got the elusive Queen of clubs with one.
 If you win a free ticket in the lottery, which is quite often when you have nine entries, you can gain a further skill point or have up to 11 entries in the next lottery and not use a single godfather point. I gave up claiming godfather points with my ticket mastery bonus when I got one free Godfather point three weeks in a row.

[huyrich]

That is not the best way, as you still need to spend 2 GF points. Here's a better way:

_ Day 1-4 : claim 1 skill point as above
_ Day 5-6: claim 1 free ticket, use it with the last one on day 7, and claim for another free ticket, but don't claim it until it is a few hours till the end of the week / daily chance cycle. Because any free ticket lasts for 24 hours, use this extra ticket for the next week to get 2 skill points. At the end of the week, the ticket mastery resets but the extra ticket doesn't disappear.

So, in short, you can get 3 skill points every 2 weeks, without spending any GF point, and you also have some extra tickets submitted in the weekly draw.

[Yonks]

So, in short, you can get 3 skill points every 2 weeks, without spending any GF point, and you also have some extra tickets submitted in the weekly draw.

And what exactly do extra tickets get you?  I'd personally rather go with a sure thing that improves my character rather than chance at something that isn't worth much.  The only thing that is worth much is the 3 balls (Lotto piece) or 5 balls (1000 GF Points) that are actually worth anything.  You have < 1 in 10,000,000 chances of winning the jackpot.

[stevehim42]

Extrapolating things over a 1 year (rounded to 52 weeks) period:

Strategy 1:  2 skill points/wk

tot skill points in 1 year:  104
tot GF points spent in one year: 104
net skill points (tot skill pts - those could've gained from GF pts) = 104 - 7 = 97

Strategy 2:  Save all skill points for GF points

Assume an equal distribution over time... 1-5 GF points eventually averages to 3 per week

tot GF points at year's end: 3*52 = 156
156 GF points = 11 skill points


Strategy 3:  Play a bigger lottery.  Redeem every time you get to 2, giving a total of 13 tickets in each week's lottery.  

In addition to claiming the max. # of free tix each week, I play the same 4 numbers on each, rotating the 5th (or, if you don't want to risk winning 104 GF points by hitting all 4 numbers, keep 3 the same and rotate the last 2).  

Basically, I don't care about any of the prizes they give except the lotto items or the 500 GF points.  Since you can't win the 500 GF points more than once, I choose to take shots at the lotto items.  

Now, sure, your odds of winning are diminished by limiting yourself to so few #s (though considering the orders of magnitude, I'm not sure it is even statistically significant), but you are effectively playing a MUCH bigger lottery.  This is based on the assumptions that equipment plays a more significant role than skill points, that you don't have 501 of the best of everything (in which case it's moot, since 100 skill points is mostly diminished for someone that far advanced), and that the current rate for even the "worst perceived" lotto item is 20 moscow HEL (which is actually a bit of a low estimate).

By playing the same 4 #s 13 times, you are taking 4 shots at 13 lotto items.  By playing the same 3 numbers 13 times, you are taking one shot at 13 lotto items, but will likely end up with more consumables/daily tickets over the long haul.

I basically look at it like the real lottery...I'd like to hit as big a jackpot as possible, and will forego increasing my odds for smaller prizes, or taking the sure thing of skill points.

That said, if you disagree, then Yonks's strategy yields the best, safest route to benefits imo, with Strategy 2 (GF points) being good only if your main goal is leveling quicker, as the extra energy refills are certainly worth more than the 100 or so skill points in that respect.

[huyrich]

So, in short, you can get 3 skill points every 2 weeks, without spending any GF point, and you also have some extra tickets submitted in the weekly draw.

And what exactly do extra tickets get you?  I'd personally rather go with a sure thing that improves my character rather than chance at something that isn't worth much.  The only thing that is worth much is the 3 balls (Lotto piece) or 5 balls (1000 GF Points) that are actually worth anything.  You have < 1 in 10,000,000 chances of winning the jackpot.

Well, I didn't say that those extra tickets in the drawing were worth much. I just said that you could get 1 free ticket at the end of the week, and then use it in conjunction with the 7 tickets that you have on the next week to get 2 skill points without spending any GF point.
Using the calculation like stevehim did above, this strategy nets 89 skill points a year, if all you do with GF points is purchasing skill points then your strategy is actually better (by 8 skill points a year).

[S4R]

is it good to claim ticket at 6...as u may get upto 5 gf..or go for skill points..>?

[Yonks]

is it good to claim ticket at 6...as u may get upto 5 gf..or go for skill points..>?

No ... that is the point of this entire post.  Steve had some really good maths breaking it down over time on a post above.  Using the 4 tickets for 1 Skill Points is better usage of this bonus.  Especially if you do it a 2nd time in the week by purchasing another ticket for a 2nd Skill points (only costs 2 GF points for another skill point essentially).

[T-pain]

i have been rotating between the skill point and the godfather points. i have a roulette wheel from the lotto collection and i have no idea how i won it. so in general i would like to play for more of the collection. thanks and for any information.

[Mr_Pedantic]

On last weeks lottery using the 4 skill + free ticket + free ticket. = 9 entries. I won a craps table, 2 free tickets and 5 various consumeables. Although I was lucky that three numbers in the 20's came up.
So far this week I have 7 entries and tomorrow will claim my 2nd skill point. 

[huyrich]

Well, I didn't say that those extra tickets in the drawing were worth much. I just said that you could get 1 free ticket at the end of the week, and then use it in conjunction with the 7 tickets that you have on the next week to get 2 skill points without spending any GF point.
Using the calculation like stevehim did above, this strategy nets 89 skill points a year, if all you do with GF points is purchasing skill points then your strategy is actually better (by 8 skill points a year).

Ah scratch that, Steve didn't know that 14 GF points could buy you 4 skill points, not just 1. So, using my strategy:

3 skill points every 2 weeks (no GF points spent) = 78 skill points a year
104 GF points saved (compared to Yonk's strategy) a year = 7x4 = 28 skill points
total skill points = 78 + 28 = 106

Not to mention you could spend your GF points on something else if you want to.

So my strategy is actually better . You have more tickets submitted a week too, larger chance of winning something.

[stevehim42]

Ah scratch that, Steve didn't know that 14 GF points could buy you 4 skill points, not just 1. So, using my strategy:

I did know that. 

[huyrich]

So my calculation above was right, right?

[Yonks]

3 skill points every 2 weeks (no GF points spent) = 78 skill points a year
104 GF points saved (compared to Yonk's strategy) a year = 7x4 = 28 skill points
total skill points = 78 + 28 = 106

Not to mention you could spend your GF points on something else if you want to.

So my strategy is actually better . You have more tickets submitted a week too, larger chance of winning something.

So my calculation above was right, right?

No ... your calculation is NOT correct.  Ticket Mastery DOES NOT carry over from one week to another.  So unless you follow the strategy that I outlined you will be losing ticket mastery progress (unless you submit those tickets on extra tickets or collection items) ... both of which I consider a waste of ticket mastery.

Steve already provided the calculations (thanks for doing the legwork on that).  To get as many GF points as he outlines ... this of course requires that you play 365 days a year.  Not overly realistic ... but if you miss a day or 2 in a week, you just don't use the 2nd portion of the strategy.

Bottomline ... THE BEST usage of Daily Chance is collecting a skill point when you have Ticket Mastery 4 of 6 ... the maths show that (I'm not even going to consider people's "but what if you win the jackpot" theories).

[huyrich]

No ... your calculation is NOT correct.  Ticket Mastery DOES NOT carry over from one week to another.  So unless you follow the strategy that I outlined you will be losing ticket mastery progress (unless you submit those tickets on extra tickets or collection items) ... both of which I consider a waste of ticket mastery.

Steve already provided the calculations (thanks for doing the legwork on that).  To get as many GF points as he outlines ... this of course requires that you play 365 days a year.  Not overly realistic ... but if you miss a day or 2 in a week, you just don't use the 2nd portion of the strategy.

Bottomline ... THE BEST usage of Daily Chance is collecting a skill point when you have Ticket Mastery 4 of 6 ... the maths show that (I'm not even going to consider people's "but what if you win the jackpot" theories).

I think you need to read my strategy again:

That is not the best way, as you still need to spend 2 GF points. Here's a better way:

_ Day 1-4 : claim 1 skill point as above
_ Day 5-6: claim 1 free ticket, use it with the last one on day 7, and claim for another free ticket, but don't claim it until it is a few hours till the end of the week / daily chance cycle. Because any free ticket lasts for 24 hours, use this extra ticket for the next week to get 2 skill points. At the end of the week, the ticket mastery resets but the extra ticket doesn't disappear.

So, in short, you can get 3 skill points every 2 weeks, without spending any GF point, and you also have some extra tickets submitted in the weekly draw.

I even said that ticket mastery resets every week, but every extra ticket that you claim (from 2 submitted tickets) will last for 24 hours, no matter what it is during the week (ticket mastery progressing) or at the conjunction of 2 consecutive weeks. I have been doing that for several months now, so I'm pretty sure it works. Here, I'll write it again so that you have a clearer idea:

Week 1:
_ Day 1: submit ticket
_ Day 2: submit ticket
_ Day 3: submit ticket
_ Day 4: submit ticket, claim for 1 skill point
_ Day 5: submit ticket
_ Day 6: submit ticket, claim for 1 free ticket, submit that free ticket
_ Day 7: submit ticket - now you have 2 submitted ticket in the mastery progress
Now, on this last day, wait until it is a few hours before the mastery reset, then claim for a free ticket, but don't submit that free ticket, instead use it with the next week because it will last for 24 hours.

Week 2:
_ Day 1: submit the free ticket that you have from the last step above + 1 new ticket you get for the new week -> 2 submitted tickets total
_ Day 2: submit ticket (3 tickets submitted total)
_ Day 3: submit ticket (4 tickets submitted total) -> claim for 1 skill point
_ Day 4: submit ticket
_ Day 5: submit ticket
_ Day 6: submit ticket
_ Day 7: submit ticket, claim for 1 skill point

See, that's how you get 3 skill points every 2 weeks without spending any GF point. And if you go over my calculation again, it's correct. Your strategy would be better if 14 GF points can only buy you 1 skill point, but the opposite is true when 14 GF points get you 4 skill points. I know this strategy hasn't appeared anywhere, so you have doubt about it, but just try it this week when the mastery resets and you will see.

[jzeisler]

Given 104 godfather points and the daily lotto tickets provided and assuming that you never win a free ticket:

Huyrich Method will yield: 26*7+26*8=390 lotto entries and 3*26=78 skill points and 104 (unspent in the lotto) godfather points = 4*104/14=30 skill points
                                    390 loto entries and 108 skill points

Yonks Method will yield: 52*8=416 loto entries and 2*52=104 skill points and 104 godfather points spent
                                    416 lotto entries and 104 skill points

Comparing the 2 you trade the 4 extra skill points (Huyrich Method) equivalent to 14 godfather points for 26 lotto entries which is equivalent to 26*2=52 godfather points (essentially gaining 52-14=38 godfather points) for the Yonks method

Additionally, you don't risk wasting a lotto entry in the event you win a free ticket as you are carrying one over to the next week.

[brighty]

well my thinking is pretty simple auto pick and 1 skill point its just the luck of the draw and it only takes 1 ticket to win a lotto piece and even 1k gf points hope that was abit simpler the previous post witch are good BTW

[xxxnemisisxxx]

I don't know who has done these calculations but they are way off the mark. My 10 GF points are used to complete a level up giving 5 skill points, so as you work 14 GF points for 4 skill I don't know, in your theory of things over 2 week I get even more ! Anyway its a game why all the scientific equations, Some people use the skill in different ways , ie defence, attack or pure energy all these variations are not accounted for in your sequence of events are they. Skill points and GF points don't do jack if they are mis-spent so all this is pointless in my opinion. It was an interesting read tho, thx

[huyrich]

lol, why is it pointless? If you don't do it, you lose or gain nothing. If you do it my way, you don't have to spend any GF points (hint: use as you want, like energy?).
So spending about 5 seconds a day to submit a ticket (then take back some skill points) is pointless to you?

And @jzeisler: how can you do those conversions? It's not valid if it doesn't exist! You can't cash out 1 tickets to get 2 GF points! And I don't know about your luck but I almost never won anything in the past few months. My way is a "sure" way, not taking any risk.

[xxxnemisisxxx]

Yes I totally agree with what you said, I bow to the almighty but I am talking about the extra GF you have not got because you have got skill points not the ones spent in gaining an extra skill point. I do it religiously every day and the 5 secs it takes is worth every second, I was saying all the maths was pointless. Thx for the swift reply tho